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Updated by user Jun 28, 2016

Very good, generous company..fantastic prospects!

Original review posted by user Jun 27, 2016

Awesome experience with the Enagic K8 machine..works perfectly and reliably. The water is safe and healthy.

It's perfectly alkaline. Saves the environment by avoiding adding to the disaster of billions of plastic water bottles sold by Pepsi (Aquafina) and Coca-Cola (Dasani) going into our landfills. (Please write your critique against them).

You can produce cleaning and disinfecting water.

The business plan is a direct sales plan, not MLM. Every person can make as much or more as the person who sponsored them. A typical American business is much more of a pyramid..The CEO at the top makes most of the money..minimum wage earners are replaced at the whim of his supervisor or owner. At a car dealership for instance, the sales manager makes commissions on his sales agents, who make commissions on their sales, with the owner of the company making the most..Pyramid at the top!

Take a look at Walmart's business model..the Walton's are the wealthiest family in America. They employ over 1 million workers who labor for the top tier of employees and the Waltons, there is very little sharing of the wealth going on!

Please lighten up on the judgement of alternative business models..after all, no one is forced to participate. Go healthy, Go green!

Enagic Usa Pros: Great product.

Location: Springdale, Arkansas

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Guest

Hilarious The_Rationalist! I'm an affiliate marketer and I crack up seeing your posts!

There you go again with your ad, siting www.alkalinewaterionizers.org! You're doing a great job and an even better job with your domain name! A .org works wonders doesn't it for your average human eye that knows nothing about affiliate marketing? LOL!

I've seen your posts on most of these negative comments and you never fail putting your ad. The people paying you a few bucks a post would be very happy with your work! LOL! And if you're actually the reseller behind alkalinewaterionizer.org, you're doing great because it's is working.

Some people are definitely finding themselves in this mostly bogus website of paid posters and are definitely being talked out of what could be a good decision that instead becomes swayed to the competition! Great job.

It's funny and yet sad for those that are totally unaware. LOL!

Rationalist
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Nice try Anonymous. Attack the individual yet fail to refute a single argument or fact.

Classic low-level schilling and a base level logical fallacy. I am not affiliated with alkalinewaterionizers.org in any way or any water purification or treatment company/product, or the medical industry (I have stated this true fact several times). I know that Kangen scammers are hyper-sensitive to the possibility of another water scam company stealing victims (oops I mean customers) away from their pyramid scheme as there is no honour among thieves. I referenced that site as it does present numerous facts as to why Kangen is a scam (and you predictably failed to address a single one).

If you prefer, I could have referenced work done at Simon Fraser University that is along similar lines instead. Finally, your repeated use of a three letter all-caps acronym is not an argument and does not add credibility to your post; save the acronyms for twitter and the world of high-school dropouts. As far as credibility, I condemn all of these water machines, network marketing and pyramid schemes as being evil and predatory towards its victims. Your vigorous defence of these immoral and evil pyramidal sales practices, in contrast to my universal condemnation of network marketing and pyramid schemes is all that need be said.

I feel sorry for your victims. As a side note, I had grown bored of posting about the horrors of Engiac and Kangen Water and had completely stopped, but your post has renewed my enthusiasm.

Guest
reply icon Replying to comment of Guest-1221468

the only people that have positive things to say are the people selling it

Rationalist

Sorry poster, I don't ever intend to "lighten up [on] my judgement of..." pyramid schemes such as Kangen Water/Engiac. "Alternative business model" is a nice way of describing this nasty scam where (according to the website below), up to 90% of the revenue generated from these snake oil machines goes towards 7 - 9 uplinks in the chain.

Comparing Walmart, where employees are guaranteed a fixed hourly wage, to Engiac's MLM/Network Marketing/pyramid scheme participants is disingenuous at best, and a blatant fallacy at worst. Lastly, if you want to keep bottles out of the landfill, drink tap water.

You don't need to buy a $4000 machine through a pyramid scheme to "go green" (another faulty Kangen argument).

http://www.alkalinewaterionizers.org/consumer-reports-why-are-kangen-water-ionizers-so-expensive/

It also seems that Kangen shills on this website are attempting to keep positive reviews as the first entry in order to dull the effect of the litany of negative reviews on this site. Those who understand SEO know that this technique/trick is easy to undermine.

Guest
reply icon Replying to comment of Rationalist

You can't even spell the name correctly... It's Enagic not Engiac.

Rationalist
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Nice red herring Anonymous. No, the fact that my finger slipped on the keys and made a typo (as it does now and then for everyone) doesn't invalidate my argument.

This is why you didn't attempt to address my argument/statement at all. Pointing out my typo doesn't prove that "Enagic" isn't a scam (which it is), and doesn't negate my claim that posts such as yours are likely manufactured in mass by amoral and shameless shills.

For your sake, it is best to avoid logical fallacies such as red herrings (also known as a fallacy in relevance logic) in the future as skilled debaters such as myself will identify them and destroy your argument effortlessly (as I have just done).

Guest
reply icon Replying to comment of Rationalist

I personally worked directly for Sam Walton for 8 years..I know 'business models' inside and out. He admired direct marketers because they controlled their own futures.

He laughed about moving people 'out' of their Walmart jobs with no regard. So what is your personal 'experience' with Walmart and Direct marketing business models?

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